The Old Man

Hi, This is getting way off topic, I should probably split this into a dedicated topic but yes, agreed, a snake eating its own tail is an ancient symbol. However, whilst not intending to sound preachy or an authority on the subject, it's the design that's Intellectual Property (IP). There are 100's if not 1000's of ouroborus designs, but they are all likely somebody's IP design, no matter who created them or whether they've given the rights away for free, sold them or reserved them. In this case, the Millennium Group's version of the ouro is a design someone, probably Ramsey McDaniel/Storm Media since it features in her title sequence, created for Fox's production, they own it. Now apparently Disney does. You can usually get permission to use someone else’s intellectual property (IP) by buying the rights from them or getting their permission to use it. Not suggesting anyone do that. Using someone’s trade mark, patent, copyright or design without their permission is known as ‘IP infringement’ and could lead to a fine, prison or both. Some good info and definition here. I did a couple of quick searches and the phrases themselves aren't listed as registered trademarks. Probably jumping the gun here a little bit!

Thanks Randee, these are all progress and good news! #GoHighPlainsDrifter !

Found the little flash ad banner file and extracted the tiny images from it. Only 7 images, but you'll get the drift anyway... The link to the site was there but it says it's closed now. Awesome!

I did a quick topic search and here's one example thread, very interesting, gosh way back in 2009 during the great days of our relationship with B2FB, before the 'Millennium Cold War' began. Oh well, sadly looking at it, the Flickr images are gone. (That wouldn't happen these days as for some time the software permanently caches any remote third party images by default). You may find the link to the online store there or certainly on the B2FB site with photos. I'm sure Baz still has the designs and I will no doubt have the images on my main PC as I recall making a animated banner way back, but they may be exclusive to B2FB and we may have to come up with new versions and ideas, not hard. He'll be aware of this discussion at some point due to the mention, but I recall he's such a busy chap. With great talent, comes great responsibility.

I don't think TIWWA would be the potential issue, the problem is the artwork, it has to be original, which is why Barry put so much time and effort into them. One of my favourites was the Halloween egg splatter on Frank's window. Of course the other concern is that Disney owning the rights to Millennium is a whole new board game.

You know, I actually didn't know that, what a shame. Seems very unfair to me, tarring a whole generation the same, that way.

I've created an updated version with a new subtlety animated Creepy Lucy Butler Halloween gadget, some performance enhancements, and split some of the variation designs into standalone gadgets, so you can more easily mix and match multiple gadgets on your desktop (I.e. no longer limited to one type of Ouro at a time, you can now have separate ones all at the same time, rotating Ouro, Owls Ouro etc). Releasing soon!

There used to be so much fake cafepress-style MM stuff on safe, it was unreal. Some of it okay, not all bad, but you still ended up with people being taken in, myself included once, thinking it was the genuine article. Sad to learn it's still available. I was elated to get a MM clock off Ebay once, only to be gutted when it arrived to be a cheap $1 marketing clock with a MM sticker attached. I hate the thought of people getting taken advantage of. There's such a huge difference in quality and value between promotional mugs and t-shirts and the original articles, like the the officially licensed Millennium calendars released by Fox, or the genuine Millennium watches and mugs that Meghan G. reportedly had made for the main people, or the official cast/crew jackets. However, usually the fans miss out because the items get snapped up so fast by traders, who set ridiculous prices. I have seriously thought a few times about asking the rather awesome Barry @ENGINECOMICS to design some T-shirts for TIWWA or the website, like he did way back when for the Back To Frank Black campaign. You may remember them, we used to promote them here way back when, they were so good. In fact I wish I'd had some funds to buy some at the time when I was still working. Not only did Barry absolutely nail the t-shirt designs, they were cleverly designed so that you'd immediately get the MM reference but so as not to fall foul of Fox's copyright lawyers. Reminds me of the days way back, when they used to go around taking whole fan sites down.

Alex makes some great points there. I think based on the comments about ST:TNG with its much larger international fan base, MM has little chance of HD Blu-Ray release, let alone 4K. I'd love to be wrong, perhaps if there was a larger potential buy and rent streaming market, but everyone in the industry is going to know about the failure from a business perspective of a large multi season series like TNG. I want like to believe writers are in it for the stories, the characters and the audience, but big studio execs are certainly business people, with thousands of international shareholders to placate. TNG was great when it maturedand the cast and crew became a family (just like Riker matured when he grew that beard, but let us quickly forget the awful cheesy pilot), I'd also love to see Voyager in HD and DS9's stunning battle scenes and excellent Dominion War story arc played out in HD. Honestly, in the 90's, I could never imagine a time when new Star Trek would be gone from mainstream television. The new reboot movies by comparison are just overglorified, quickly forgotten, big budget effects blockbuster style movies, they're just awful, disposable films with no soul, or character, that betray everything we held dear. Grrr. Once more, I digress. Millennium movies, Blu Ray, 4K, they're nice to think about as pipe dreams but in all reality, they're almost guaranteed never going to happen. I'd much rather hope and hold out for unrealistic HD and 4K releases than risk an under-budgeted TV movie, that's got the potential to detract from MM and what we hold most dear about the series, as much as it has potential to enhance the series. The MM DVDs look quite crisp upscaled to 1080p HD but I've not seen them upscaled to 4K. I do have a 4K main PC monitor now so I must try it sometime, but they may appear grainy upscaled that much.

I think the term 'Millennials' is the ideal name for referring to fans of Millennium. Who's with me? It's either that or Millennium-philes. Now that's just awful. How about Generation MM? I just think Millennials is awesome. Labels are for gifts, not people.

Wherever you are, whatever you're up to, hope you've had a great birthday!

View File Life of a Comet by Frank Black Life of a Comet by Frank Black (The Beginning and the End) At the start of Millennium's second season, The Beginning and the End opens with a montage of images from outer space, the life of a comet. The same comet appears in the night sky Frank Black is staring into, causing him to contemplate his own destiny and the relevance of the celestial body. In his monologue narrated by Lance Henriksen, protagonist Frank is considering the 'life' of a comet and its analogous relationship to our own existence. Referring to his immediate state, Frank asks, "Is this the beginning or the end?" Is it the beginning of the journey or the end when Frank allows his vengeance for the Polaroid stalker to push him over the edge in a relentless search for Catherine? The Millennium Group pulls Frank more deeply into its secretive ranks in an effort to bring closure to the abduction case with the knowledge that his work for them is not yet done. This download consists of the narration Life Of A Comet (1m 53s), available in 2 formats: mp3 and wma. Image sequence from the Life Of A Comet scene: Submitter The Old Man Submitted 08/02/2018 Category Millennium Audio Sound Files  

View File Ghost Dance - (A Single Blade of Grass) Ghost Dance - (A Single Blade of Grass) During a scene from the Millennium episode A Single Blade Of Grass written by writing-partners Erin Maher and Kay Reindl, Floyd "Redcrow" Westerman reads a direct extract from the Messiah Letter, during a re-enactment of 'The Ghost Dance.' This second season episode of Millennium dealt with the 'millenniumistic' prophecy of the birth of the Fifth World and elimination of the White Man. The real-life background and inspiration for this episode was James Mooney, a 19th century ethnologist with the Bureau of American Ethnology, was sent to investigate the 'Ghost Dance' movement in 1891. The Ghost Dance (Nanissáanah in Native American Caddo, the traditional language of the Caddo Nation), also known as the Ghost Dance of 1890, was a new religious movement being incorporated into numerous American Indian belief systems. According to the teachings of the Northern Paiute spiritual leader Wovoka, proper practice of the dance would reunite the living with spirits of the dead, bring the spirits of the dead to fight on their behalf, make the white colonists leave, and bring peace, prosperity, and unity to Indian peoples throughout the region. Ethnologist James Mooney obtained a copy of Wovoka's message from a Cheyenne named Black Short Nose, who had been part of a joint Cheyenne-Arapaho delegation that visited Wovoka in Nevada, in August 1891. Wovoka (also known as Jack Wilson) delivered his message orally, and it was transcribed by a member of the group who had attended Carlisle Indian School. Mooney renders the "Carlisle English" of this transcription in a more grammatical form. Learn more: Wikipedia entry on the Ghost Dance Full version of Wovoka's Message: The Promise of the Ghost Dance Ghost Dance The ghost-dance religion and the Sioux outbreak of 1890 : Mooney, James, 1861-1921 : Free Download The Indian Ghost Dance and War Submitter The Old Man Submitted 08/02/2018 Category Millennium Audio Sound Files