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  1. welcome!

    i believe in the last scene on the final episode on Season 3 he was heading east.

    wouldn't east from DC be, say, the Atlantic?

    and since it was during/after school, and thus the sun was more likely to be setting, and he was driving into an illuminated area, it's more likely west, eh?


    - nothing, who'd often thought he was driving south, though this belief may have been influenced by VS4

  2. i definitely ruined my family's viewing of the movie with my exclamation of 'Chris Owens?!' in his first scene. and i agree, good flick. i had heard of the case of course, but didn't know much about it before. also, it reminded me of this german movie called 'the lives of others', which is good as well.

    - nothing, who rarely actually sees movies

  3. now i don't want to open up the whole 'what is psychic' can of worms, and i strongly agree that Frank was not intended at least to be psychic. it is my understanding/belief that what we see/hear during one of his 'flashes', for lack of a better word, is, as others have said, largely based in what he experiences, but is rendered for the viewer to experience. there are certain limitations to an audiovisual medium, and those and the fact that the show (at least in my mind) is not told from Frank's pov mean that a certain amount of interpretation goes on. when i first started watching the show, i imagined there was an accompanying mental fuzziness of everything else - i don't know where this came from. but when i read the novelization of the pilot, it described a heat at the base of his neck, and that struck me as the oddest thing. i know i've read somewhere about what exactly was or wasn't in the script but for the life of me i can't remember it.

    also, several people have pointed out that 'seeing angels' sounds a lot more psychic/supernatural than profiling, especially when performed by Jordan, or Linda, neither of whom have had the life experiences/training Frank had. no one, unless i've read this wrong, mentions Lara's first angel, which she saw when she was also very young. i have several points to make about this, and they may get convoluted.

    - at some point, and for the life of me i can't recall when exactly, Frank says he manipulated his gift. in my understanding, this means he's gone from being a passive viewer/interpreter (can't find a better word) of these signals of evil that others see/sense to actively integrating these detection abilities into profiling.

    -in MOTC (where the line above may come from, and thus it's not from CC's mind anymore) he says he's seeing differently, more intensely, since joining TMG. i kind of took that to mean (mainly) that more cases + more research = better honed skills

    - i think the angel as harbinger of doom is similarly an interpretation, but closer to what is seen. winged psychopomps are common throughout the world and time. its use in Christian mythology makes it more a messenger of the living than the dead. so that all the characters who see anything see angels (Frank sees them in MOTC and it's implied he may have originally, though he's done some manipulating by Curse) is not surprising given they were all born into/exposed to Christian environments. i think an angel's an expected image which manifests when they feel something, but i'm personally at a loss to say what exactly is being felt. i believe there are realms of the mind we don't understand and that they do not fall in the realm of supernatural.

    - nothing, who unfortunately does not believe in a world like that in MM

  4. don’t want to step on any toes or anything, but wow. reading some of our reactions, especially those so eloquently laid out by ModernDayMoriarty, have opened my eyes and made me all the more appreciative of the diversity of fans’ reactions. there are some points i’d argue if I weren’t so tired, but i am so here’s this:

    i would have to say the innocents makes me a little mad, because of how much of the previous season is left completely untouched. i understand that this is a result of having to sweep up after m&w, but once those eps (T4H/TTIN) were written and were filmed and were canon, it bugs me that instead of wrapping up *some* of the dangling threads they just started a whole new tapestry.

    anamnesis annoys me too because it feels so unnecessary. while I find the interaction between Lara and Peter interesting, sending Catherine on a case seems a bit perfunctory. not only does it not help her understand the Group any better, it inserted this odd little bit about the family that is never even approached with a 10-foot-pole again.

    and i agree with the had-the-potential; coulda-been-better assessment given to HOSS, …Thirteen, and submit to the list Omerta (and not only because 85% of the action occurred offscreen).

    then the content of some episodes made me annoyed, if not mad. The Well-Worn Lock, Broken World, Beware of the Dog, A Room With No View. but wasn’t that part of the point of MM, to provoke, to make you uncomfortable, and make you think?

    but that’s the great thing about MM; as others have stated, while we may have an ep or two we utterly dread, our collection of favourites and those we dislike are rarely to never the same. and i for one, love it as a (more or less) coherent whole.

    - nothing who wishes to neither offend nor bash, and hasn’t seen a single MM ep in a while being oh so separated from her disks, and whose only cinema and media studies class was in, and thus focused solely on, another country. i also realize i’m rather picky and happen to want the one thing we don’t get in any particular episode…

  5. yes, i seem to remember often reading that 'grotesque' was one of the main inspirations for MM/early evidence of it. i'm not being very articulate, but i do remember it was singled out because it dealt so clearly with human minds, capacity for evil, the potential for corruption/obsession, and relationship between a mentor and a protege. i remember CC citing it specifically as one of the darker eps, and also as a taste of MM.

    the other one i remember is 'home', which wasn't necessarily so much a MM precursor but CC being given a bit of a looser reign to tell an xf story... and a fairly odd one.

    - nothing, who REALLY needs to get to bed

  6. whoo boy, i could talk about hr for a while.

    i'd reccomend to almost anyone interested in MM to at least rent it. there is some very powerful tug of it on me that i cannot explain. while i do not rate the show itself as one of my top three (and not only because it was cancelled so quickly), there is something about the set-up and the mythology that i cannot let go of.

    i occasionally write stories for basically every show i watch, though some come much easier than others. there were 9 episodes of HR and i have written or outlined at least 15 HR stories. i know proportions isn't the only way to explan how it affects me, but i think it is a decent example. in maybe a two day span i watched all 9 episodes on my tapes, and i have a 6 hour tape of one ep and a whole bunch of behind the scenes stuff. i recieved the dvd series for christmas whenever it first came out but i must shamefully admit that i have NOT watched a single dvd ep snice that time, out of fear that it would inspire waaaaaaaaaay too much.

    there are many things i don't like about hr. i must admit i've never really paid too much attention to who's writing, directing, etc, but i agree with the above comments on the subject. i've often thought about it, and approach it this way in my stories, that if slightly refocused i think it could've been better. i think the division between 'mythology' eps and standalones was too great; i think santiago shouldn't have been a main character and florence should have; and if i completely had my way waters, inga, and the pilot would've been retooled a bit. as much as i love terry o'quinn the decision to make him a regular cheapens the show for me becasue, honestly, how many times can a newby to the realm get so close to santiago and not be able to kill him? i woud've liked a little less reliance on the real world, but still show information from it. i think the sophie story might have gotten old; how many times can she question the government ony to recieve lies and blank stares, or how many times can she visit the 'widow' of someone else lost in the realm. i think a connection between the two worlds, as in reunion, was an interesting idea, but i think sophie's story, of being alone and pregnant, might have deviated from the true essense of hr. she's tom's motivation, no doubt, and letters are ok, but i think she would've been appearing less and less (Though not gone) as time went by. i like the inclusion of waters, but again think he was overused. hr is not that small of a world. i would've like to know what else existed outside santiago's realm, because there was a lot of empty space on santiago's map of the (former) us. i know we would've gotten it in time, but i would like to know what CC et al had planned for the time between when the bomb went off and when hobbes entered the realm, other than a general succession of soldier-leaders and a descent into general lawlessness. i would really have liked to know more about florence, though i admit her mystery is one of the reasons she's sort of my favorite. that is why i'm dissappointed she wasn't a led; mainly because: where did she go? also, how did she and pinocchio know each other? in short, if it had been a more 'us vs the world/realm/santiago' story, with more information about the day-to-day struggles of living in the realm outside the fence, i'd ilke to think it may have had a chance. we had glimpses of these struggles in about every ep, but i still came away feeling life in hr was written a bit easier than it should've been.

    - nothing, who's really got to stop rambling about things she loves that no one cares about, and get back to writing about african political systems, because she's getting graded on it.

  7. Question for the UK-ers and other Euros on the board: I thought the measure of distance in Europe was the kilometer, not the mile. Note the sign in the pic.

    i'm not a uk-er, but i've been there. think about the two systems for a second, we have metric, and we have imperial. as in, british. they give distances such as to a detour or something in yards as well. threw me off at first too.

    here's a fun sign my friend took in oz. i didn't catch this one, but i have dozens of warning signs for penguins, kangaroos, ekidnas, etc

    - nothing, who misses oz


  8. not sure if this is the place to put this, but he're goes: i heard some time ago on another list about a book written by Chris Carter's wife. i can't remember her name, only that i think it began with a 'd', maybe Dory or Dotti or something, and her last name wansn't Carter; or at least, this was the name under which the book was published. i remember reading that it was fiction but sort of based on real life, and dealt at least a little with the behind the scenes aspect of creating a tv show, the scandal, etc (this was manly for the x files if i recall correctly).

    i kept meaning to find it but by the time i got around to looking for the book i'd lost the email which contained the information. i've tried asking that group, but it almost died with the x-files, so no luck there.

    if anyone has any idea of what i'm talking about or reccomendations, or if this is the wrong place for such an inquiry, please let me know and i am sorrry. i hope someone can help

    - orfan

    always looking for things to read, especially those concerning the formative years of her life

  9. WOW

    ..::calms down:::..

    strange, i've been off TIWWA forever, and thinking a lot about the yellow house, and suddnely the two things intersect.

    I am insanely jealous of your opportunities in the yellow house! it's definitely on my list of places to experience. strage as it sounds i've been trying to see/walk through it in my head as a means getting to sleep (it's not really working, but it is leaving me with many questions and items to investigate).

    - nothing, who has as an insane goal to replicate that house as much as possible

  10. think the thing that threw many people off was interviews that I read, prior to the episode, that included the word "closure" regarding the Millennium series. I believe it was Lance himself who used that specific word. I'm not sure what he meant by that, but I can't see where the X-files episode would have provided any kind of closure for anyone.

    i agree in that i don't see any MM closure in txf ep MM. granted, we get Frank and Jordan back together in the end, but where the episode even starts raised too many questions as to what had gone on in the intervening time for me to sit back and say 'ok, they're here now.' and we got the two of them (f and j, i'm not talking m and s here) together in the end, as it should be, but i feel that the episode took too much on. they could have made a decent christmas/new year's x-files episode about zombies, they could've made a (i hope) decent x-files episode that (sort of) resolved the MM storyline, but i feel the integration of the two did a great disservice to both of them.

    my main argument against it is where on earth does the idea of zombies come from? sure, there might be vague references in the bible to people other than jesus being ressurected and them being the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse (i've never read the bible, and i forget too much of what i learned about christian mythology from my studies of MM, so if this is wrong i believe it even furthers my point). but, iirc, and i'm not exactly current in my full s2 and s3 watchings, tMG divide between owls and roosters, or at least the ideologies, was never settled. as a fan i am thus uncomfortable with an x-files episode which rather arbitrarily decides which it is, and furthermore ventures in to supernatural realms the likes of which were not yet seen in MM in order to do so.

    i could go on but it's after three and i told myself i'd be in bed by midnight. in short, the whole episode feels off; (real) mythology is mixed and (televisoin) mythology is generally ignored.

    My opinion is that the writers were still harboring some hope of a 4th season, and therefore reached the best conclusion they could have with the continuation of the show in jeopardy

    i'd like to think this is true too, but that late in the season i think, and i thought i'd read, they probably knew... :cry:

    We did get a nice little story about zombies though

    ! if only it were only that. (nice and zombies seem kind of oxymoronic. a weird PMP-zombie idea just popped into my head, which defintiely indicates it's bed time)

    Actually, she is currently employed by me...

    ... kind of creepy... do you let her do temp work?

    - nothing, who admittedly, was a hardcore xf shipper at the time, and relished the kiss in its own right

  11. That's the M=1000 CD, the first one you mentioned. it's amazing. i've told its story elsewhere; and if it weren't four in the morning i'd link to it. it was hosted on a website but was taken down just a few days after i discovered it. i'd contacted the creator (each song had a picture associated with it) and later was conteacted about a CD version of it. i am still enthralled by it.

    i don't think i've heard of the other one; but i'd definitely appreciate more information if any is forthcoming

    - orfan

    who desperately needs to go to bed

  12. i def agree with lamentations, fourth, and goodbye.

    i think the way MOTC wraps up the episode’s story is very interesting and compelling. i personally would’ve ended it differently, but still like the original.) same goes for covenant; i really like the unfinished effect there.

    i think the end of luminary summed up Frank’s experiences well – Alex’s parents’ inability to receive the notebook, and then his statement to Catherine.

    - nothing

  13. um... did y'all manage to find it there, 'cause i couldn't. i tried the search words 'millenium' and 'mark snow'. please, please, enlighten me if i'm completely missing something.

    in related news, a google search brought up this, but since i'm not on my own computer and this one has a lot of problems but no activeX installed (and i don't yet want to risk it), i'm not sure of what value it might be: https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0016225

    i was wondering if any one of my fellow sheet-music searchers would be willing to check it out - for personal gain as well, of course, and report back with some results...?


    - nothing,

    who explains her several-month absence with one word: Australia :rock2:

  14. As I was taught [ in sunday school] Mary was impregnated by the holy spirit [ immaculant conception] and therefore a virgin having never had sex with a human male.

    Walkabout, and all others, i hate to say it, but your Sunday school teachings are wrong/misremembered.

    while most people believe that the term 'immaculate conception' refers to Mary conceiving Jesus through the Holy Spirit/God/via (arch)angel - however you want to work it all out that's the basic belief, and it's wrong.

    immaculate conception refers to Mary's own conception. it means she was born immaculata (sorry for the spelling, i've never taken Latin) - that is, without original sin herself. as such, she was the proper vessel for the son of God, who was conceived not through a man but the spirit. logically such a uniuqe conception should garner a name, but i'm no religious scholar. i'm not even religious.

    as for the debate, i don't know about Lucy being both a male and a female - separately. gender is not a clear-cut issue; maybe her human form has absolutely nothing to do with her 'spiritual' (for lack of a better word) form. for example, does God have a gender? usually the answer is no, and 'he' is just the convenient pronoun (in most languages). then, does Jesus have a gender beyond his earthly one? do angels, do devils? does the devil? i agree, slippery slope.

    in any case, if lucy were able to fertilize her own eggs, either becase she's both a man and woman or because as a single individual (gendered or genderless) she contains both ovum and sperm, the resultant offspring would be pretty prone to genetic problems of the same kind which prevent marriage between first cousins.

    it is true some fish (i think), some insects (i think) and some salamandars (i know) are able to fertilize their own eggs, but what happens there is they create a clone of themselves. this usually takes place in hard times, when the energy required to gestate and feed a male outranks that of one 'switching' and/or producing a clone of oneself. this is a risk to the population long term, because the genetic diversity is greatly decreased.

    but then there's the question of why Lucy would need a 'human' offspring in the first place. God's only needed one so far, or maybe not at all depending on your Judeo-Christian models, or perhaps several or hundreds, in other religions. the general line is that God's son(s) was/were sent to save mankind; are the devils (Somehow..., etc) not doing a good enough job at tempting mankind that we need a Son of Lucifer in the mix? or was legion's child going to play a roll in the coming apocalypse? are there any children of the devil, roughly equivalent to the son of god, mentioned or present in the bible - is the antichrist born or potentially born of man? and if she wants a child so bad, why did she 'kill' or maybe not kill her first one? (if she didn't kill him how did he OD on cyanide?) who was the father/mother of that one, and was he/she not 'enough' to be the parent? i mean, if she wants a kid, there's a reason she's waited three plus years to have a random roll in the hay (because she's pregnant before the events of Antipas). what will Frank's genes and 'influence' have on that particular son (or daughter) of the devil? if she just wants the particular child in existence, could she as a he find some woman to do the gestating for him/her (lucy)? so long as he kept track of the mother... why all the sudden am i thinking of that particular x-files episode... you know the one, i can't think of the name. what would a child that was the natural, human product of two people 'infected' by Legion be?

    if you couldn't tell earlier, i'm not all up to snuff on my religious prophecy, so feel free to correct anything but the first part, which I know is right.

    - nothing, who reccomends the book Y: the Descent of Man by Steve Jones, while not entirely relavent, to all interested parties

    one of my favorite people in the world: "female is the fundamental form"

  15. why did they have a hard time conceiving? was it Frank or Catherine?

    as far as i recall it wasn't mentioned specifically. the only mention of it i remember is in monster, when Frank has been arrested and is talking to the Barbakows. he says something like 'my little girl is a miracle,' "we weren't supposed to be able to concieve." (double quotation marks is what he actually says.)

    i kind of wondered about the same thing, esp. b/c one of my classes this semester dealt a fair amount with "NRT"s - new reproductive technologies.

    there may be a mention or two i forget, but i seemed to get the impression (at least from the fanon) that a good deal of her miralce is from post-conception/birth.

    - nothing, getting on a plane to begin my journey halfway 'round the world in... 18 hours.

  16. i had heard (maybe from IMDB itself, i can't remember) that KC was in The Thirteenth Warrior, and i taped it off the sci fi chanel one day. when i went to watch it i found i had cut off maybe the first two minutes, and thought i might had missed her character, as the warriors are all male. when it came to the woman i fought with myself as to whether it was KC or not, and decided it had to be. i don't remember noticing so much facial similarity but i do remember being unsure about the nose.


  17. grr, stupid internet provider, kicked me off right as i finished my post

    1) nice catch on Cayce, eth. Edgar Cayce was the first thing that jumped to mind when i first heard his name in the ep; somehow it escaped my list. i would've never gotten Daniel Olivaw.

    2) i'm an idiot; the scottish reference was indeed to Aleister Crowley, so the two theories merge and become one. how convenient

    3) i had to search www.babynames.com for a paper about two years ago (my handed down normal and new age (!) baby name books being at home). most of the names on the show are standard Euro-Ameican fare, and thus taken for granted. the name Thomas, for example, was more likely chosen at random or named after a person (friend, character, historical figure (Biblical? i have no recollection of what biblical Thomas did) than given that name b/c it means 'twin'.

    in Omerta it's mentioned that Eddie Scarpino's last name/nickname (i can't remember - gasp) means small shoes. but did you ever consider Eddie? i didn't until today, when i searched it. apparently, aside from being a nickname for Edward, Eddie itself means wealthy guardian. i have to wonder if that's on purpose....

    - nothing, whose real name says a hell of a lot about a particular thing about me...

  18. i knew, i seem to recall from MM dialogue itself, that Antipas was "an allusion to Satan in the book of Revelations." once i searched for it and highlighted it, but never remember the chapter and verse. those crime scene photos from that ep always make me smile when i'm ordering antipasti at a restaurant :frank_black: "you called me on a case because of appetizers?

    on a tangential note that bit of knowledge worked into conversation last year. my roommate (in the American sense) was and is a Mormon (but obviously no longer my roommate) and somehow not only the Bible, but Revelations and even Antipas came up in conversation. i think she may have been reading from the additional Mormon text (bad roommate - i can't remember the name at the moment; it's a good idea to sleep for more than four hours a night) and wanted to read me a passage which included the word Antipas. she stopped reading as an aside to explain that Antipas is a name/character in the Bible, to which i replied that it's, as above, "an allusion to Satan in the book of Revelations." as i'm an atheist and she knows, she was taken aback. she said something like 'i'm supposed to be the one with the random Biblical knowledge."

    i just shrugged.

    - nothing, "an allusion to Frank's abilities in the episode of the pilot"

  19. which addy did you try? (i suppose i could just test them as well, but the receiver may get pissed if 1001 MM fans clamoring about TEO...

    for fun i searched for pinkchaos.net (nothing; www.pinkchaos.com is some blog though), westmedia.net (nothing; www.westmedia.com is under reconstuction and looks like it has to do w/ entertainment, tickets, etc), and frostbite.net (claims to be "All the best resources on the net" and has an annoying screensaver popup; frostbite.com is a "womens fashion clothing store", not surprising). interesting.

    pinkchaos sounds very teeniebopper/pseudoangsty 14 year old slightly spoiled girl to me (i have one for a sister; i'm allowed to generalize :tongue: ) but frostbite sounds like a pretty cool (no pun intended) name for an ISP (though their clothing site looks a bit sketch). i have to look into this pretty soon anyway...

    - nothing@frostbite.net (maybe)

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