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  1. Hi All, Any UK based group members fancy meeting up when Lance is in London this July? http://www.londonfilmandcomiccon.com/index.php/9-lfcc-guests/london-guests-filmandtv/1001-lance-henriksen Would be nice to put faces to names!
  2. Hi all, it seemed appropriate to add this link in this thread as there is news coming out from NYCC about the next X- Files series. The full interview is here: http://deadline.com/2017/10/the-x-files-revival-chris-carter-david-duchovny-gillian-anderson-lone-gunmen-new-york-comic-con-1202184258/#respond but the relevant MM part at the end is copied here: DEADLINE: In such times, are there other shows you’d like to resurrect? CARTER: I think Millennium would be a show that would have more life in it but no one’s ever spoken seriously to me about that. DEADLINE: Odd.. CARTER: Yeah, I always feel that there are more of those stories to tell as well. After three seasons, we pulled the plug on that show but the ratings were still very good so I think that there is a new approach to that show building on the solid foundation that was already there. END
  3. Hi all. Something of interest to fellow group members, an upcoming Netflix series adapting of John Douglas‘ 1996 nonfiction novel, “Mind Hunter: Inside the FBI’s Elite Serial Crime Unit,” which is based on Douglas’ work as an FBI profiler tracking down serial killers. Also one of the source book inspirations for the writers on Millennium. http://www.slashfilm.com/mindhunter-teaser-trailer-david-finchers-new-netflix-series/

    Happy Birthday Engine Comics

    Thanks Old man and Earthnut for the birthday wishes. Hope you're both well.


    Hi all, just a quick note to say sadly I won't be posting the first episode of VS6 on Halloween as intended due to other work commitments, instead it will be closer to Christmas before I'll have the artwork finished. Instead I will post up the script text on the VS6 blog for people to read. Look forward to your thoughts on it. Cheers


    No worries Graham- I can still log in to the development forums, it's good to have that there to refer back to but this'll be fine for time being; I'll DM with Gotham Gal the script and discussions that way.


    I'll send you a DM with the file attached- reading through it, it needs a bit more work. I didn't realise each post we make was being tweeted automatically too!


    Thanks Gotham Gal- I can send you the script to read through if you like? Since announcing my intention to do a VS6 it's not really got many peoples interest but I'm happy to do it for my own amusement, if no-one elses! :)


    HI all. Just a quick note for regular TIWWA members, I'm currently finishing my script for VS6 Episode 1, and could do with a few volunteers to check it out for me and give some feedback. Who fancies it? Let me know, cheers

    New Millennium Comic

    Hi Gotham Gal, In US comics its something of a conveyor belt process for time reasons really- the editor manages the comics like a showrunner, planning out arcs many issues ahead and assigning creative teams under the guidance of editor in chiefs and the publishers. In most UK or European comics, artists tend to draw/paint/colour their own work, sometimes letter too, rather than having a separate inker or colourist. In the comics industry (though mostly outside of it) there is a perception that comics are only bought by middle-aged men or spotty teenagers- that's the stereotype. As with all mediums of course, comics can cater to all genres and all ages, unfortunately in western comics superheroes as a genre tends to dominate. In my experience though, in the last 15 years in the UK scene there are more and more younger creators coming through who aren't tied down to the traditions of the past, and so are diversifying not just the material being produced, but also the demographic of creators. It's a great time for comics I think. On MILLENNIUM in comic book form, hopefully the new X Files series will spark an upsurge in interest, though I agree with your theory- many MM fans will likely be of that age group.

    New Millennium Comic

    Comics are actually pretty labour intensive and expensive to produce- you have to pay the writer, artist, colourist, letterer, editor, designer, licencee etc, unless you are doing creator owned (such as Image Comics, publishers of Walking Dead amongst others) which is a different set up. The way the the US/UK comics industry works is that comic shops order in advance from a trade catalogue called PREVIEWS, which all publishers list products in. The retailers pay in advance and have to sell the comics they have ordered to make any money back, or indeed merely break even. Some publishers offer sale or return which is still the exception rather than the rule. As many comic shops are still small independent stores, they have to be cautious in what they order- if there isn't likely to be a high demand they simply won't risk money on it, and traditionally the comic reading section of a particular fandom can be quite a small percentage. The link below gives figures for comic sales in December 2015 and gives an idea just how small in the US comic sales can be. There will be a cut off when the title just isn't profitable anymore, and regardless of the creative aspect, it has to make money to keep going. http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-12.html

    New Millennium Comic

    On the issue of Frank raising his hand to Jordan- the Frank we see in the comics, some 20 years after the show finished, is not the same man we knew. I don't have the issues to hand but IIRC this later Frank seemed more skittish, more disturbed and desperate than the one we last saw on TV. People can change a lot in 20 years- the lines in the sand they would never cross can be washed away to be replaced by a line which would have been inconceivable before. I think the back story of how he got to that point and the estrangement with Jordan would likely have been explored in greater depth in subsequent series, should they occur.

    Millennium S4E01: "Genesis"

    Thanks Libby. I did think the Vancouver reference was an in-joke as well, but I thought that would make Frost's judicial involvement even stranger and did a quick google search for other Vancouver's (and learnt some interesting trivia- Both cities were named after sea captain George Vancouver, but the American city is older.) All in all its a solid opening I thought.

    Millennium S4E01: "Genesis"

    Good point Libby. I've changed the font colour back to black.

    Millennium S4E01: "Genesis"

    Okay, I'll have ago with Episode 1 VIRTUAL SEASON: #401 "GENESIS"- Written by Dan Owen, Kevin Patterson, and Matt Asendorf OVERVIEW: Coming to terms with the events of the Season 3 finale "Goodbye To All That", Frank and Jordan have taken refuge at his brothers home in Baltimore, Maryland. Frank is drawn back into the world when he is connected with a dead man found executed on the bank of a river. Meanwhile Emma Hollis' integration to the Millennium Group deepens when she is tasked by her new employers to investigate the same case, leading to a confrontation with her former partner. SYNOPSIS (contains spoilers- highlight to read): The episode begins with a monologue by Frank, reciting Genesis chapter one verse one, to imagery matching that of an earlier era of the planets development, before transitioning to the Old Man, holding a SHEPHERD'S CROOK. He has his fingers interlinked over the ornate crook's head (which has been carved into the shape of a double-headed creature: an OWL and a ROOSTER. We see the Old Man sitting on the edge of his shack's door. A circle of small, white obelisks loop his decrepit home. In the distance we can hear a few dogs, all howling somewhere in the forest. A loud buzzing fly lands on his face- he waves it away and returns to his contemplation. July 2, 1999. Six weeks after the events of Goodbye To All That, we find Frank and Jordan staying with his brother Tom, wife Helen and son Charlie in their house in Baltimore. Helen is still haunted by her abduction, as is everyone by the loss of Catherine. At the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia, Emma Hollis completes her report on Peter Watts, ruling the cause of death as murder. Meanwhile a man's body is found half buried in mud on the bank of a river, shot in the head execution style. Local Detective Hart and PI Ryan Frost are at the scene investigating, when they find a piece of paper in the mans pocket, a page from a diary dated 25th June with the words "Contact Frank Black". Being their only initial lead, they resolve to find all Frank Blacks in the area. Tom invites Frank to stay with them longer. Frank leaves to collect items from his house in Falls Church, Virginia. Frank keeps the folder Watts gave him last season under the seat in his Jeep. Back at the FBI, Emma is informed by Andy McClaren that following his retirement in five months time, she will be moved up to the position of Agent in Charge, with Barry Baldwins' replacement, Ken McGreevy, in line to replace McClaren as Assistant Director. McClaren partners Hollis with McGreevy to help foster relations. Later, in the parking lot, Hollis is approached by Carol Finley, her new handler from the Group. Hollis expresses concern over the death of Watts,a nd of Franks' behaviour. Finley explains Frank away as being tormented by another nervous breakdown after the death of Catherine, and blaming the Group for the outbraek to rationalise the loss. Finley reminds Hollis of Franks earlier breakdown in 1996, and of the Groups close ties to the FBI going back to the Hoover days. Hollis appears to be reassured and accepts this. Frank arrives at the house in Falls Church, only to find it ransacked. He finds an invitation to Peter Watt's funeral dated 27th May. At the morgue, Hart and Frost discuss the body, a man called Harris, with the coroner, who enquires about Frost involvement as a PI. Frost indicates he usually deals with religiously motivated cases but occasionally involves himself in 'normal' cases too. The coroner responds when they mention Frank Blacks' name, the coroner remarking that he has worked with a Frank Black of the FBI for several years on other cases. Frost is intrigued with this link. Frost and Hart arrive at Franks house and take him down to the station for questioning. As they drive away, another man arrives, Blaylock, who wears a gold ring identical to that found on the body of Harris. Blaylock smashes into Franks car and retrieves the folder from under the seat. In the interview room, Frank is interviewed by Frost (Hart is not present). Although Frank states he does not know a Harris personally, he suggests to check the victims background to link with the Group. Ryan confirms he was a member. Frank responds that the group eliminate disloyal members and due to their influence, the case won't be solvedonly that another four bodies will be found at the same location. Frank cites that a friend died giving him that information (presumably the Watts' folder). Frank is to be hold for 24 hours. That night he experiences a vision which is apparently shared simultaneously with Jordan. who awakes in her bed to the sound of a fly buzzing in the room (a recurring motif through the episode). The same night, Hollis receives a visit from Finley at her apartment, who gives her her first case- to investigate the murder of ex-member Harris. Both Hollis and McGreevey have been reassigned from the Watts case to Harris, with apparently McClarens' blessing. The next morning Frank is released from custody by Frost after receiving confirmation of his alibi from a motel owner. Frost reveals he was himself a candidate for the Group for 5 months before being unceremoniously fired. Frank refers to the mass burial pit from last season, and observes they may only fire those they don't count as a threat to their ideals. Those killed are higher-ranking members, who could cause them a lot of trouble if they went public. Frank himself feels unable to go public without concrete evidence of his claims. He refers to the deathlist given in the folder by Watts, which includes Harris at the top, Watts himself and Frank, among three others, who he believes are the additional victims by the river. When the arrive at the crime scene they find Hollis and McGreevey already there with Hart, and the other bodies. Frost refers to Frank as being psychic, though Frank winces at the description. Frank blames the Group for these murders, surmising that Harris might have been on his way to Frank to pass information on, much to the embarrassment of Hollis. The group leave for the morgue, while Frank returns to his house with Frost to collect his car. He finds the folder missing. We see the folder being handed to the Elder by Blaylock. A neighbour gives Frank a package while they investigate the car- an unmarked cassette tape. The tape has a mans voice speaking a series of numbers and a warning. Frank finds a Bible and matches the number to two verses. Frost believes this is Harris inferring the Earth is corrupt and in need of another flood to cleanse it- Frank disagrees, instead stating the cause is not just and the Group is attempting to bring an apocalypse of their own making. The other number given in the tape is 5312, which Frank relates back to that he saw in his vision and from the printout in the folder- Archive 5312. Frank believes it to be an address that may yeild further clues. Meanwhile Finley reports on Hollis to the Elder, who is revealed to be working side by side with Mabius once more. Mabius indicates he has taken care of the facility, everything and everyone. At the morgue they find 5312 on the hand of one of the victims- Hollis relates it back to a Group stem cell research facility in the Arlington area. McGreevey and Hollis head there to find the place cleared out, just as Frank and Frost arrive. Frank chastizes Hollis for her obedience to the Group. Mabius watches as they all leave the facility empty handed. Later, Frank visits Peter's grave for the first time, acknowledging that he knows Watt's died questioning the Group and not as a lamb to the slaughter. He promises he will expose the Group and provide justice for his family. He suddenly receives a phonecall, and an unknown voice reveals there were only five intended names were on the list, not six, and all five have been dealt with. The voice tells Frank to have no fear, before disconnecting. The caller is revealed to be the Elder, watching from afar in his limousine. The episode ends with the Old Man once more on his porch, his shepherds' crook in hand. In the other, a crushed dead fly. BACKPLOT (Snippets of series relevant information): - In between the previous episode and this, Frank and Jordan have been on the move, staying at various hotels before staying at Toms. Frank has apparently told Tom all about the Group and their actions, but Tom has kept this information from Helen, including that Frank no longer works for the FBI. - Hollis's father has moved out of her apartment, and her computer has been upgraded to Groups' network. Her voice passphrase is "We all go a little mad sometimes.", from Psycho (1960). As of July 2, there are 182 days remaining. - Ryan Frost states he was fired from the Vancouver P.D in November '97, and almost immediately was contacted by the Millennium Group. He was offered a consultancy position, which he accepted in December '97, and was abruptly fired in May "the same (sic) year". We can presume this was a typo and was meant May the following year. Frank states this was around the same time as the Marburg outbreak. Frank refers to Brian Roedecker, also fired from the FBI that month without cause, along with the mass burial pit found in Season 3. - It's implied by Blaylock that Watts' added Franks name to the death list to scare Frank into hiding, and that Watts himself received the folder from Harris, who was also marked for execution. - The verses given in the cassette tape are from The Book of Genesis, Chapter 2, Verse 4: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." and 6:12: "And God looked upon the earth and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted His way upon the earth." - Peter John Watts grave at Arlington National Cemetery, Virginia, gives the dates March 26, 1952 - May 21, 1999 and the eulogy "Loving husband of Barbara, caring father of Erin, Chelsea and Taylor." - Barry Baldwin's grave at an unnamed cemetery gives the dates October 22, 1966 - May 21, 1999 and the eulogy "Son of Mary and Brian, Brother of Julie." LOCATIONS: Quantico, Virginia Baltimore, Maryland Falls Church, Virginia Arlington, Virginia UNANSWERED QUESTIONS- Plot holes, mysteries - Ryan Frost was a member of the Vancouver, Washington State police department (not, presumably Vancouver, Canada). Why was he recruited by the Group? Why is he a Private Investigator? How is he allowed to be involved in active investigations by local PD and interview suspects without supervision? How is he now working in Baltimore? - How and why does the Group have so much influence over McClaren to make him reassign cases? - What happened to the Group civil war? - Why would Frank risk going to his brothers house if he felt the Group were still a danger? Friends and family are the first places they would look for him. ANALYSIS- Implications, inferences, suspicions, relationships NOTES (Or trivia)

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