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  1. Any fans of The Sinner here? It stars BIll Pullman, and has some Millennium qualities. The main character is, get this, a retired detective, who appears to have a gift (at least in Season 1 the woman he searches for speaks to him in his head). The tone of the show is foreboding and moody. A book containing an ouroboros is more than once shown and referenced. A growing conflict for balance between the case and his family life/love life is also a part of the storyline. I'm only 3 episodes in, and coming to this show late as I believe it may have just wrapped up it's 4th and final season, but I'm enjoying it.

  2. On 5/28/2022 at 8:25 PM, letty said:

    This sounds like an excellent project!

    I'm working on a very different, very spoilery thing that discusses episodes but dives into the cultural context/religious focus/and how those themes connect to the world now, so I plan to follow your project, very curious about the direction you are going in. I think this show is such a rich text, I'm so glad to see more people diving in.


    Sounds like we have a similar project going. Definitely let me know when it's finished. I hit 30,000 words on this project and it's been on the backburner for a couple months now as I had other projects and just released a very different book for teens, Bruh Read the News: https://bookshop.org/books/bruh-read-the-news-a-teen-guide-for-fighting-disinformation-one-critical-thinker-at-a-time/9781088026373

    This backburner period will let me get some fresh eyes on the project, however, and once again, with enjoyment return to Season One.

    On 5/31/2022 at 1:32 AM, Gotham Gal said:

    @letty. Good luck w/the project. It sounds terrific! please let us know when you've completed it.:)

    Of course! I appreciate the interest.

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  3. This is a great idea. I'm currently finishing up the 3rd season again, so I don't want to compile my own version of the mini series quite yet, but I would say for Season One I would add "Force Majeure." Without it, the shift to season 2 would be even more abrupt than it was when the series ran in its entirety. I also loved how you included "The Judge," one of my favorite episodes.

  4. I agree. Peter was definitely torn in his loyalties, and it probably was a mix of the difficulty of clarifying what occurred in one episode as well as the shift in writers. Just struck me as odd, "Not much. Not yet," like the MG did kill Catherine and Peter was aware, or at least that the virus was deliberately spread by the MG. It makes me wonder what the group had on Peter. I think it would have been awesome if at some point they showed us what transpired between Peter and the MG soldiers on the night Lara went insane. Where was he taken? What did the MG tell him or how did it threaten him?

  5. While I'm not surprised that a lot of folks don't like the episode (and that's not a knock), I enjoy "...13 Years Later." There isn't a Halloween episode fathomable that could follow up something as brilliant and as well done as "The Curse of Frank Black," especially in light of the events that transpired at the end of Season 2, so we should just stop right there and not even try to compare the two.

    "...13 Years Later" is the kind of episode you watch while eating king size candy bars and salty popcorn, all washed down in a gluttonous fashion by your favorite carbonated beverage. It's a funny parody about the humor, ridiculousness, shock, fright and enjoyment we, as horror fans, get out of the genre. I think it's interesting how Michael Perry followed up something like "The Mikado" with a goofier, Darin Morgan-like episode. It's a good, not great, entry, but a worthy addition to the series, and I have to say, even though I wouldn't consider myself a KISS fan, I'm digging the heavy guitar strings and the song they played.

    "Welcome to the show!"

    Came across this behind the scenes video a week ago. In the interest of time, Lance is interviewed about 20 minutes in:


  6. On 8/25/2009 at 2:50 PM, Earthnut said:

    I personally feel that we all have been too hard on the character Emma Hollis. We got so used to awesome characters like Lara Means and Lucy Butler, and a character that is somewhat on an average or normal level is disappointing or boring. To me it would be literally impossible to improve on Lara or Lucy, and no matter how good the new character is, and to me Emma was a great character, we are spoiled, and no new character would ever be as good or as appreciated as L & L.

    I agree. I actually don't find her dull. Her life experiences have shaped her personality, and everyone's personality is shaped differently. I see Emma as a strong woman with a tragic past. Slamming the car into the overhead support column was brave, and seemed to me to be a way of Emma taking back control; a sharp contrast against the little girl standing in the doorway, understandably, afraid to death of the man who had murdered her sister.

    "Closure" is a solid episode. However, if I were to find it a position among 67 Millennium episodes, it's a bottom of mid-tier entry.

  7. There's been a lot of discussion about Peter's character arc throughout the years, but after recently finishing Season 2 again, gaining new insights, then beginning Season 3, it struck me that Peter's behavior is unexplained as it relates to the "The Time is Now" to "Exegesis" (his first appearance in Season 3). Toward the end of "The Time..." Peter has finally agreed with Frank that the MG really cares about control more than anything else, and so at Frank's urging, Peter goes to apparently rescue Lara Means. He's of course stopped by some MG soldiers in suits, and then there's the mysterious phone call to Frank where we here a distraught Peter yell, "Frank," and then we're left wondering what exactly went down as car doors are slammed shut.

    Which takes us to "Exegesis." While it's plausible that Frank is pissed and distrustful of Peter and believes the MG killed Catherine, there's no explanation as to what happened that night outside of the cabin where Lara had gone insane. Was Peter once again convinced by the MG that they were a force for good? Was his family threatened? After meeting with Frank outside of Jordan's new school, he returns to the car with Mabius in the backseat who asks "What does he know?", to which Peter responds, "Not much. Not yet." Curious what everyone thinks about this. Is it a case of yet another classic hole in the plot and storyline, or something else?

  8. Watching Diggstown (1992) and thought I spotted some of Millennium's Season One villains in one place: Connor (John Fleck) from "Blood Relatives" and the Judge (Marshall Bell) from the eponymous episode...wrong I was! That isn't John Fleck; turns out it's Frank Collison. Honestly, they look very similar.


  9. Reviving a dead poll, but my answer is "No." I also have to disagree with some of the comments about her being a nagging burden throughout Season 2. It definitely starts that way, but halfway through, particularly with "Luminary," her and Frank begin to reconcile their differences. The end of that episode as they walk to Frank's jeep arm and arm, smiling, is one of my favorite moments. In "Owls," as Frank is putting Jordan in the car and Catherine is explaining her night shift with Aerotech, she says "It felt like family there for a minute again." She was a great character whose potential was unfortunately under-served and whose purpose was overlooked.

  10. On 10/19/2019 at 2:31 PM, Earthnut said:

    Interesting that Chris Carter wrote the part of Catherine Black with Megan in mind.  And it was his suggestion to kill her off in "The Time Is Now." 

    You might enjoy reading the 1996 interview with Megan posted at our sister site ~





    That's an awesome interview. It's funny how Megan kept repeating "December 6th" about the Catherine episodes beginning. However, the episode I thought she was referring to was "The Well-Worn Lock," which I believe aired closer to Christmas. "Blood Relatives" is probably the one as she is featured more prominently in it.

    It's disappointing and I'm sure she was disappointed that the show didn't involve her as much. She's absent in so much of Season 2, and then of course, the season finale took her out of the show, at least physically.

    As others have said, she was a great character, and I agree that it would have been great for the show to go in a direction where Frank valued Catherine's advice, wisdom and prescience much more; she definitely had the power to center him. This is why her death hurt so much; not only was a main character killed, but so was a larger story potential.

    I assume there are some Columbo fans on this forum. Well, when the show returned in the late 80s after a decade away, there's an episode titled "Goodbye, Mrs. Columbo," I believe, and there is an attempt on Columbo's wife's life (poison in jam), and the viewer is even tricked into believing there was a funeral for her. Just the idea broke my heart, but I was glad to see it was just a ploy to get the killer to admit to the original murder. The writers didn't kill her off. It's also worth noting that in Columbo's 60+ episodes, we never ever see Mrs. Columbo; just see Columbo talk to her on the phone, try to find her on a cruise, or make references to his wife in every episode.

    It hurts when writers kill the characters they ask us to love...

  11. The character of Catherine Black had a lot of untapped potential. We saw it in episodes like "The Well-Worn Lock" as well as "Anamnesis." IMO, the end of season 2 should have concluded with a mysterious knock on the cabin door, with a secretive Millennium Group member, perhaps in a monastery hood, delivering by candlelight another dose to protect Catherine, and as a result, the entire Black family. This would be similar to the character X from the X-Files who helps Mulder before his death. She was essential to Frank's light, as much as Jordan was. It would have been great to see them find the strength to the return to the Yellow House as a family again.

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  12. I agree Doug Hutchison was a great casting for the Polaroid Stalker in this episode. I also found Robert Shearman's take in his review of the episode in his book Wanting to Believe: A Critical Guide to The X-Files, Millennium & The Lone Gunmen to be pretty on-point, too. He basically said that we went from a reserved stalker in "Paper Dove" to a guy that suddenly we can't get to shut up in "The Beginning & the End" lol.

  13. Fantastic episode and I watched it again last night. One question for me regards the diner cook with "ketchup" on his apron. Is he asking the Winnebago couple to move forward to put them in harm's way, or is he terrible at helping people?

  14. @Gotham Gal I think you're probably right, though a 15-minute conversation wouldn't hurt, but let's let the past remain where it should. Ted Mann said in the Millennium After the Millennium documentary that everything was TBD and Carter never laid out a vision for the show and that it was intentional. What bothers me is that "98% less serial killers" in Season Two equaled 100% less Ted Mann. Also, no inside info, it could have been his decision, just a correlation.

  15. @Gotham Gal I have. Bought a hard copy when it came out a decade ago. I still read it to this day. Every essay is excellent, and I've referenced it a few times and will continue to I'm sure.

    My book aims to focus on the dark and light in the episodes, as well as examine the historical context related to the stories and what I see as the subtext. I'm deliberately avoiding complete synopsis-style descriptions of the episodes. In the cases where I struggle to avoid revealing significant portions of plot, I'm adding a spoiler alert, because my hope is that someone new to the show would read it, not just time-tested fans.

    I feel like there's not a lot of literature about the show. Aside from Back to Frank Black, most writers I've seen usually address Millennium as extensions in books they write about the X-Files, which is understandable given the two different worlds in popularity, but that's really my goal: add to the literature.

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  16. To my TIWWA Community,

    I just want everyone to know that I'm in the midst of writing a book on Season One of Millennium. It's largely a book of praise focused on the light and dark of the show. I'm also trying not to include many spoilers as I want the show to both appeal to old fans and newcomers who haven't yet watched the series. I'm relying on a lot of the great material on this site, so thanks to Libby and everyone involved in writing/editing the transcripts, as well as the synopsis and character profile pages. I'm reading reviews of episodes to gather additional insights, and of course, watching the episodes again. So far, I dig into favorite scenes and highlight historical context where possible (e.g. the amount of children in foster care in the 90s as it relates to "Blood Relatives" or America's prison population as it relates to "The Judge").

    I'm about 15,000 words into what I plan to be a 40,000-words manuscript. I'm still in the drafting stage, and after that, revision time, which will likely occur in the next week or so (I'm working on another book as well, so that gives me some time away from the book with fresh eyes and perspective).

    I'm definitely going to be shouting out/recommending our community in the book as it's a fantastic place to engage with fans and an exceptional resource. I've got an exceptional artist working on the cover and drawings of villains like the Judge and Lucy Butler, and also some of my favorite recurring characters.

    The book will be self-published, but as I plan to turn it into a series that examines all 3 seasons (over the next few years), who knows where it might lead and what publisher may be interested/which publisher I may reach out to after the first book. My author/blog website is https://www.rightguywrongtown.com if anyone is interested (I write a lot about politics, education & music and am beginning to delve into film). This is who we are!


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  17. This just came in the mail a few days ago from Books From the Crypt, an online store from Maryland whose tagline is "Specializing in Pulp SF, Fantasy & Horror Since 1997." I wonder if that's how long they've had this near-mint copy. Great book so far. It's around 240 pages and Elizabeth Hand has a real skill with imagery. The writing is poetic, and you do get more from the novel. So far not on the deductive reasoning/pathologist end, but certainly when it comes to Frank's home life, his desire to protect his family, the way he holds his breath so he can hear is daughter breathing while she sleeps peacefully in the night.

    I'll post the Gehenna novel when I start reading it in a day or two.


  18. @Gotham Gal "We never really talked about it [Morgan & Wong and Chip, et al]

    Looking at the Back to Frank Black book and I can't seem to find the part about dissolving the Millennium Group (my imagination or something I heard on one of the DVD special features or the BTFB podcasts?), however, regarding the Chip and Morgan/Wong situation, it's definitely true. Glenn Morgan said "We never really talked about it, so it was weird to watch some of Season Three where there was this plague, and then we just forget about it. There were a couple of ways you could go. I just watched The Road, and that was kind of one of the ideas that we had--the show should just kind of become that." (Chamberlain & Dixon, p. 123)

    Later on, in conversation with Frank Spotnitz, when asked if anyone believed the series would not return for Season 3, Spotnitz replied "No. What I remember is, actually, that I thought we were coming back for Season Three, but I had no idea how we were going to get out of the box that Season Two ended in. I thought we were coming back; I guess I was hoping Morgan and Wong were coming back so that they could get us out of the box that they had built!" (p. 280)

    Why these conversations never took place, I'll never understand. That said, just on its face, I don't like The Road idea. I have full confidence that the writers could make it work, but I actually liked the direction of Season 3, though the opening episodes were not that strong.

    If I discover any of the other ideas Morgan and Wong apparently had, I'll be sure to share them.


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  19. On 5/27/2008 at 5:21 PM, Guest KTL said:

    Season 3 is clearly the best, in my opinion. I didn't miss one episode when I first saw it on the german Pro7 in 2000 (I think). I even skipped my favourite late night show, the Harald Schmidt show for it - witch ran in the same time spot and witch I watched religiously. What I love about Season 3 is its non-hectic approach to storylines and it's heavy visualism. Also, the best use of an actors face I've ever seen. Season 3 conveys somekind of calm loneliness for me, like a cool breeze, witch makes me shudder, but also calms me down. I don't know. I can't describe it.


    Best presence of Lance Henriksen in the whole show. Maybe it's the whole mentor aspect. Or maybe it's because he is a widower now, raising Jordan by himself - it makes his character even more tragic, lonely, heavy. He has gravity here. I also like his relationship to Peter here. Maybe because I like Terry O'Quinn playing "dark". I am a huge fan of his Stepfather movies (I haven't seen one episode of Lost yet).


    Also, the most memorable episodes too. (Darwin's Eye, Saturn Dreaming of Mercury, Nostalgia, Skull and Bones, Through a Glass Darkly etc.) Altough it had it's stinkers like Exegesis. Season 1 is my second favourite, but after a very, very dark start it somehow looses its footing. (The darkness is back in Lamentation and Broken World is simply brilliant.) And Season 2 didn't even feel like Millennium or Frank Black at all. It was almost unbearably light in tone.


    For me, 3 is the most honest of all seasons. It doesn't have the uncertainties of Season 1 (where is this all heading?) or the change the world mentality of Season 2. It just presents the ugliness of its world as it is. Season 3 is a lot like Blurs Trimm Trabb in Darwin's Eye: "That's just the way it is, That's just the way it is..."

    Well-said! Not ready to vote just yet as I'm rewatching all, but I definitely appreciate your take on Season 3.

  20. On 10/19/2019 at 12:55 PM, Lucy made me do it said:

    In no particular order:

    Lamentation - intense horror, gallows humor, a charming villain (legally, I'm not guilty!) a shocking death. Lamentation has it all.


    The Thin White Line - as good as serial killer horror gets.


    Broken World - so, so disturbing. Very Thomas Harris.


    Luminary - better than Into the Wild. There, I said it.


    A Room With No View - she's so fine. Oh yeah, the rest is great too.


    The Curse of Frank Black - awesome Halloween slow burner, rich in suspense and character development.


    Force Majeure - sad and sweet, Dourif rules.


    Jose Chung's 'Doomsday Defense' - just hilarious.


    Somehow, Satan Got Behind Me - equally hilarious.


    The Time Is Now - Lara Means psycho tripping to Patti Smith is possibly the greatest minutes of TV ever produced.

    "Broken World" is one of my absolute favorites. I think that's the one that won the "communication of animal rights" award, right?

    I'm in the midst of rewatching the series and not even halfway through the First Season at the moment. When I'm through, I'll post my top 10 because it's too difficult right now lol and I'd be far too biased toward the First Season at this point 🙂

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