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Warning: this post might include spoilers for those who possibly haven't seen the episode Jose Chung's Doomsday Defense.

Please note that this post is not suggest that there would be any flaws in the script of JCDD. I just thought it could be fun to ponder a bit on some things on an episode that is absolutely brilliant and also one the best episodes of Millennium, IMO.

Here's my thing: is it ever revealed in JCDD, who actually killed Joseph P. Ratfinkovich? One would easily assume that the killer was Roland, but if it was him, how did he do it? Ratfinkovich seems to have been killed by electrocution, but the investigators don't think that the Onan-O-Graph would malfunction in a way that it could kill someone. Besides, the Roland theory is based on Chung's "merely being fanciful". The killer could be Roland nevertheless, because Frank sees a glimpse of his face in his vision at the crime scene. But is that sufficient evidence?

Let's see.. The Nostradamus Nutball killed professor Amos Randy, his own girlfriend, and Jose Chung; his three antichrists. It doesn't seem that Nutball had anything to do with the murder of Ratfinkovich. If Ratfinkovich's killer wasn't Roland or Nutty, was there a third man involved in all this? :eyes: Is it a hint or a co-incidence that the Orson Welles movie The Third Man is in the repertoire of the movie theatre in which Nutty's girlfriend worked?

Any thoughts, my dear friends?

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Guest SouthernCelt

That's a good question (and not incoherent at all). I'll have to watch the ep again before I can be sure I can really analyze anything to that depth. Good point about the 'clue' of "The Third Man" possibility; I never considered that before.

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Guest De Novissimis

I think that the reference of the Third Man may have been referring to Jose Chung. He would be the third person to die. Maybe?

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Hey, another reply! Thanks! :hiya:

I think that the reference of the Third Man may have been referring to Jose Chung. He would be the third person to die. Maybe?

Yes, it's quite possible. However , after posting my original post I noticed a small detail which got me thinking that maybe they just wanted to show their honor to the great movie by the reference.

Giebelhouse says to Frank, when they meet outside the movie theater:

"The ushers say it was her ex-boyfriend. They tried to stop him, but he escaped down a sewage drainage ditch."

And near the end of The Third Man, Harry Lime escapes to the sewers.

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DBSD says "And near the end of The Third Man, Harry Lime escapes to the sewers."

Hey my friend...its been a while since i have seen the epi, so like SC, i will have to re-watch it to offer any kind of educated guess in regards to The Third Man...but here are some other tidbits to tide you over until then..

1. The bookstore that nobody went to for Chung's autograph signing is called Duthie's Books, downtown Vancouver (beside the Vancouver Art Gallery and Robson Square).

2. In Chung's article for the porno mag about Selfosophy, the first line of it reads: "Happy people are all the same, unhappy people are unhappy differently" . This is lifted from the first line of Tolstoy's Anna Karenina: "All happy families resemble one another, but each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way"

3. Bobby Wingood is a derivation of X-Files executive producer, Robert Goodwin

4th Horseman..

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1. The bookstore that nobody went to for Chung's autograph signing is called Duthie's Books, downtown Vancouver (beside the Vancouver Art Gallery and Robson Square).

2. In Chung's article for the porno mag about Selfosophy, the first line of it reads: "Happy people are all the same, unhappy people are unhappy differently" . This is lifted from the first line of Tolstoy's Anna Karenina: "All happy families resemble one another, but each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way"

3. Bobby Wingood is a derivation of X-Files executive producer, Robert Goodwin

4th Horseman..

Those are very good, 4H! :clapping:

Maybe it's just me, but the title of one of the Wingood posters, Operation Box Office, sounds remotely familiar - I can't help thinking of Mission Impossible, plus you-know-who. Then again, maybe I'm just being mean... "How could a religious order with ties to Hollywood be involved in anything immoral?" :grin:

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  • 1 year later...

I didn't think it was Roland that killed Ratfikovitch because when he ran to the electric cord to unplug it he seemed shocked(no pun intended) that Ratfinkovitch was killed. I thought it was the Selfosophy church or what ever it was called. But I'm not sure where I got that it seemed they were into lawsuits more than murder.

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  • 3 months later...

Great post. It's hard to tell what's 'real' and what isn't in JCDD. I never even stopped to think who killed Ratfinkovich, I was just laughing and scratching my head through the whole episode.

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