Hollow Earth Theory

[Guest fledgling666]

odessa, as far as i have been able to find out, was very real. it involved US intel community helping to move these SS officers, scientists and MD's to south america, africa and the middle east in exchange for ill-gotten information, continued interviews and so that the birthing US intel machine could begin to keep tabs on them.

as far as "hollow earth" goes, have you heard the theory that it's the judeo-chistian hell?

supposedly, people have audio recordings of screaming and whatnot.

of course, it's ridiculous, as are so many things humans on this planet believe, such as having a time-table for the destruction of a natural phenomenon.

funny though, this all goes back to LOVECRAFT.

[Guest Seraphim]

Odessa was indeed the name of a project to escort various Nazi officers to safety in exchange for information. There was also Operation Paperclip/Overcast, in which the US gave asylum to Nazi scientists. They originally were just going to bring samples from the V-2 project, but ended up bringing the scientists as well. The deal was that said scientists would work for the US government in exchange for citizenship and protection. Chief among them was Werner Van Braun. Apparently both the Catholic Church and International Red Cross (Some parts of the organizations anyway) helped Nazis flee.

Back to Hollow Earth. Hell seems to be a popular belief of what is in there. It would be nice to know if there is any truth to it, or if it is just a myth. I doubt anyone here has been to the north pole and can tell us though. =P If the planet really is hollow to an extent, it would likely be suppressed. Science is the new religion, something it shouldn't be. It's, in many ways, ceased to function as it should. The truth isn't always wanted, so it is ignored. The Catholic Church did everything it could to keep "heresy" under control in the middle ages. The scientific field today will often ridicule anything that isn't orthodox. Which is a real shame. Most of the greatest discoveries in human history were made by "fools" who resisted orthodoxy.

Science without religion is lame,

Religion without science is blind.

- Albert Einstein

Edited January 10, 2005 by Seraphim

[Raven Wolf]

BINGO! Good one, PerennialII. Thanks for the quote, Seraphim.

[Walkabout]

if volcanos reach to the core of the planet [ which they do] why then could someone not explore one that was extinct.. the problem is very few are in fact totally extinct..

If they have a probe that will explore comets [which they do] and probes that can survive investigating wrecks at the bottom of the ocean I believe they do or soon will have probes that will go down into volcanos and see whats really down there.. cool ..

[Guest kath]

Ok,

A few thoughts.

operation paperclip was more than just getting the scientists here, it also involved the research on extra terrestrials as well, and the way they worded it was something like the study and research on any aircraft of alien origin that could pose a threat to the us, or provide information etc and the way they danced about that was that unless you were a us citizen, you were an alien, so they were opening the door to get things docmented. Ironicly, the europian theater had more of an open mind about ETs, and they kept better records, and they wanted - something that would be able to keep up with the space crafts. later the people who did see them ended up being made fun of and threatened because they were so scared of the truth.

And whom ever said it, yes, the catholic church and hitler were bedfellows, and it was about the iradication of the jewish religion. Faith prevents me from saying what that was done was wrong, because, well, acording to the faith, the holly father can do no wrong, but, it wasn't peace they were looking for.

I did read a story about them finding a mamoth in the ice and only was missing the top of its head, that there were buttercups still on its tongue ... well that was when I was little, and they didn't have the discovery channel, and whats happening, they go up to the antartic, and they start using long polls to push in, and when the resistance changes they start digging. its the same thing they do when they are rescuing people when there was an avalance

A hollow earth:?

no.

Kath

[Guest Seraphim]

I have read the allegations that there was more than V2 rocket interest with paper clip. But I doubt we will ever know if those allegations are true or myth, alas. I think many conspiracies are true or have a true basis, but I am not certain on which are true. For now, I simply keep an open mind. That one about 9/11 being allowed or engineered by the US government has way too many supporting factors that it is unsettling. -_- Alternative 3 is an interesting conspiracy story/theory.

I would go so far to say that some of the things the Catholic Church did during the war were wrong and that Pope Pius XII had sinned by his position of neutrality rather than helping the innocents who were facing persecution. Acording to Christ's teachings, he should have done everything he possibly could to have helped them. Popes' have done such for as long as there has been a pope. If anything, Pius XII's "sin" was minor comparitively. It doesn't make it right though. Politics and religion are dangerous together. Though, there were Catholic Priests and Bishops who helped with the underground and who hid Jews. My doctor; his college professor was hidden by a Catholic priest in Italy. He went and saw the priest recently with his whole, and now very large, family. The priest remembered him and his family members whom he hid. It is nice to hear stories like that.

[Guest exangel]

i have too big a migraine to read the entire thread, but i must say this theory is only based on interference and lost imagination/paramnesia and fluctuating spacetimelife phenomena surrounding the biophysiology of only this planet. this planet is systematically recombining its memories to expunge the bad and finish the age of the old. this is agent YT's theory

[Guest kath]

the information about operation paperclip was documented and there is a book out written by an airforce captain who was assigned detail to the Wright Patterson Airforce base (that place has ufo ties to it as well did you know?) and I have a copy of it at work, I will bring it home tonight and get the information from it.

there is also a book, if you can find it, called La Popessa, written by a nun who was there at the time in Rome when it happened. It went beyond indifference, it was an actual decision to help irradicate the religion with Hitler. Mind you, the nun was *in love* with one of the popes and when he died, her world crumbled, and in time she left the order. I asked my mother about the involvment , if the book was right, and she said that it was.

if there is a hollow earth, where is the magma coming from for the volcanos? I know one was explained as the area in the antartic where the local volcanos kept the area & the waters warm, and because it was isolated that the creatures were able to just- live in peace...Look at it this way. A white tail deer needs five acres of land to graze over for one winter. and thats just one deer that weighs about a hundred pounds. So, how much land would a mamoth need to graze on?

Kath

[Guest Seraphim]

I am somewhat skeptical of some of the claims regarding the Government and UFO's. Some of it, I am sure, is disinformation. It's hard to tell which claims are reliable and which aren't. For instance, there is still a lot of disagreement over the authenticity of the MJ 12 documents. So, it's hard to decide which stories may be true and which are not. I keep a "it's possible" on most of them. I am familiar with the alien connection at Wright patterson. Hanger 18 is were Roswell wreckage , and possibly bodies, is supposed to have been kept. My cousin was actually born at that base. On Ufology side note. Betty Hill died this past year.

The general opinion and historical records is that Pius XII did not act from neutrality. Apparently he did hide a few Jews, though. If he truly did want the eradication of the Jewish faith, then he was quite the monster. I have heard of that book. I know there is some disagreement about it's authenticity. If I can locate it, I will look into it, though.

[Guest fledgling666]

if volcanos reach to the core of the planet [ which they do] why then could someone not explore one that was extinct.. the problem is very few are in fact totally extinct..

If they have a probe that will explore comets [which they do] and probes that can  survive investigating wrecks at the bottom of the ocean I believe they do or soon will have probes that will go down into volcanos and see whats really down there.. cool ..  

dude, volcanos do not reach the core of thuh erf. they are magma springs. they are simply a hole in the crust, there are many miles more of molten rock before you reach the molten nickel core, or so we think.

as far as Odessa is concerned:

https://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv...gramme_2083.php

what i heard about Hollow Earth:

that it is an island of sorts drifting beneath the surface of the earth's crust in the molten rock. it is completely sealed and there is an entire civilization in it, like a bubble of crust. of course, it can't ever be lit, there would be no oxygen left in it, it would be hundreds of degrees all the time and would not support life, and it would likely melt into the rest of the lava down there.

now, about h.p. lovecraft- he wrote a story called "at the mountains of madness." that had scientists exploring antarctica. they found a couple aliens and a lost alien city beneath a glacier, but all that aside, when they were leaving the place, one of the members of the team on a plane looked out over the tallest mountains in the world and caught a glimpse of something terrible and it caused him to go mad. what it was is never fully described, but some bits are given. i don't have the book on me, so i can't elaborate, but my theory is that it all starts there. the x-files started there and this theory starts there (for the modern version, anyway, there has always been the story of hell, and it is always rumored to be "below" but as for the openning being at one of the poles and hitler trying to explore antarctica, it starts with lovecraft).

of course, this is all just my opinion............