Bad Blood W/ Morgan, Wong?

[Guest Gone Fishin]

I just watched the Season 2 "documentary" in which it was strongly implied (I thought) that Morgan and Wong had taken the show in a wrong direction and confused watchers. Then, at the end there was a trailer that said Morgan and Wong had declined to be interviewed, as if there was a pretty bad relationship there.

I thought Season 2 was astonishing in its creativity and substance, and meatier than Season 1 or Season 3. I think it was the best television that's ever been made. I was amazed to hear these people talking like Season 2 was a turd. I had thought of Chris Carter as a creative genius primarily because of Season 2, only to find out he had little to do with it and really doesn't approve of what was done.

Any info or thoughts on this?

[Guest franky1]

what can i say? you are absolutely right my friend. this was what i said to my friends about that topic!!!!

[hippyroo]

I just watched the Season 2 "documentary" in which it was strongly implied (I thought) that Morgan and Wong had taken the show in a wrong direction and confused watchers.  Then, at the end there was a trailer that said Morgan and Wong had declined to be interviewed, as if there was a pretty bad relationship there. 

I thought Season 2 was astonishing in its creativity and substance, and meatier than Season 1 or Season 3.  I think it was the best television that's ever been made.  I was amazed to hear these people talking like Season 2 was a turd.  I had thought of Chris Carter as a creative genius primarily because of Season 2, only to find out he had little to do with it and really doesn't approve of what was done. 

Any info or thoughts on this?

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some of the best TV ever was in season two, no doubt

[The Old Man]

Roger that! I was surprised and to be honest saddened by the whole 'attitude problem thing' that came across in the S2 DVD extras.

Fans seem to love the mythology and historical aspects of MillenniuM on the whole.

Although S2 seems to have had its flak, its's always seen to be the most popular with fans. Sure we hated Cathering getting killed off and the Group for not having enough vacine, but S3 is generally more hated than S2 and Chris Carter was back for that. S1 has mythological symbology in it from the start with the Group's logo!

You pays your money, you takes your choice. MillenniuM is all good as far as I'm concerned, each Season with its high and low points.

The DVD snobbery though, damn shame.

[Guest F_Black]

I noticed that in the documentary as well. Most of the interviews seem to have been done after the fact, so perhaps some of the criticism came from the "Well, what do we do NOW?" aspect of Season 3. My sense was that the actors and such were often left wondering why their characters were going where they were and maybe weren't getting from M&W any real clues as to where it was all going. That can be very confusing, as any change often can.

Then again, maybe I'm just projecting, since the above is kind of what I didn't like about S2. I liked most of the individual episodes, but many of the long-term story lines left me somewhat confused, didn't make a lot of sense, and was kind of a disappointment anyhow (especially after S3 tried to rewire everything).

Let's face it: I didn't like the idea of the Group being some sort of nefarious Illuminati-type group bent on world domination, even though I bought into and liked the idea of them having a long history and mythology. That seemed to me to be just rehashing the entire X-Files uber-plot and putting a Judeo-Christian spin on it. Plus, I liked the Frank-Peter interaction and didn't understand or really like their falling out.

[The Old Man]

Its interesting how they would hold any issues about S2 for this long. Fans who were miffed about I can understand but cast & crew move on with new projects. They must have really cared...

[Guest Gone Fishin]

I noticed that in the documentary as well. Most of the interviews seem to have been done after the fact, so perhaps some of the criticism came from the "Well, what do we do NOW?" aspect of Season 3. My sense was that the actors and such were often left wondering why their characters were going where they were and maybe weren't getting from M&W any real clues as to where it was all going. That can be very confusing, as any change often can.

Then again, maybe I'm just projecting, since the above is kind of what I didn't like about S2. I liked most of the individual episodes, but many of the long-term story lines left me somewhat confused, didn't make a lot of sense, and was kind of a disappointment anyhow (especially after S3 tried to rewire everything).

Let's face it: I didn't like the idea of the Group being some sort of nefarious Illuminati-type group bent on world domination, even though I bought into and liked the idea of them having a long history and mythology. That seemed to me to be just rehashing the entire X-Files uber-plot and putting a Judeo-Christian spin on it. Plus, I liked the Frank-Peter interaction and didn't understand or really like their falling out.

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Good points, definitely. I guess I was a bit surprised that the show's "insiders" felt so negatively about the creative direction that they would make a point of it in the documentary. I thought the latter part of season 1 got weaker, and season 3 was up and down . . . but season 2 just kept building momentum as it went on, ending with what I thought was a knockout punch. The funny thing is that, with Morgan and Wong out of the picture in season 3, it would have been pretty easy for Carter to shift gears and get the show back to what he thought it should be, yet season 3 not only continued but even accelerated the Grand Conspiracy/Group as Bad Guys concept. True, they dialed down the religious overtones and apocalyptic stuff a bit, but for people who disapproved of season 2, they seemed to embrace the basic creative direction pretty consistently in season 3. So you can see why people like myself were pretty surprised to hear them denigrating it.

[Guest Frank Black Jr.]

i saw a blurp somewhere that Morgan and Wong are up to do Final Destination 3