Darth Paul Posted February 9, 2005 Posted February 9, 2005 whoops, got off track there a bit, oh, well, back on: https://www.knowledge.co.uk/xxx/cat/mayan/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Interesting link. However, I hope the author isn't trying to link the Maya and the Aztec to Egypt because of pyramids. The presence of pyramids in both places is inevitable since the pyramid structure was the only option available for large stone structures at the time. There was just no other way to build a stable, sturdy monument of that magnitude that would stand the test of time when the only available building material is heavy stone. You had to start with a large base and gradually get narrower as you went up, or the structure would collapse on itself. The Egyptians had their pyramids. The Babylonians had ziggurats, and the Meso-American peoples had talude/tablero pyramids.
hippyroo Posted February 10, 2005 Posted February 10, 2005 It has been proven that time is related to where you are and how fast you are moving (relativity by Eninstien). Given that time is not constant can you really talk about time ending? When the earth (where we are) is destoyed as it will be (the life of the sun is finite) will time end? or just time on earth?
Guest fledgling666 Posted February 10, 2005 Posted February 10, 2005 since time is a human concept above all else (that we know of), then yes, time will end. the universe will continue, but any record kept of the progression of time will cease, and therefore, time as a concept will end. samer as the tree falling in the woods. if there is nothing with ears to hear it, did it make a sound? well, no, it made sonic waves, but without the processor (the ear) converting it to audible waves, all it did was make waves. the universe will continue to move, to orbit, to rotate, to change, but it will be in a vaccuum of time, unless, of course, someone else is recording it........
Guest fledgling666 Posted February 10, 2005 Posted February 10, 2005 Interesting link. However, I hope the author isn't trying to link the Maya and the Aztec to Egypt because of pyramids. The presence of pyramids in both places is inevitable since the pyramid structure was the only option available for large stone structures at the time. There was just no other way to build a stable, sturdy monument of that magnitude that would stand the test of time when the only available building material is heavy stone. You had to start with a large base and gradually get narrower as you went up, or the structure would collapse on itself. The Egyptians had their pyramids. The Babylonians had ziggurats, and the Meso-American peoples had talude/tablero pyramids. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i read about half-way down. if it has something to do with what we're talking about, i throw it in. keeps the discussion open. have no idea if each of the pyramid cultures were in some way connected, many people have thought so throughout time, even to the point of having stories about visitors from across the sea and whatnot. with the aztecs, there are even images carved in stone of egyptian-looking people in egyptian-looking dress, with the false goatee and everything, so, who knows? i agree the building of pyramids seems elementary, but during the time the Maya built theirs, they were already well skilled at building vertical stone walls, very large ones at that. the egyptians, on the other hand, maybe not, althought they could still do large structures that were not pyramids. mesopotamians could have just as easily not built them if they had no significance other than being a large stone building with no interior, or, a man-made hill, basically. they could easily have used any natural hill for whatever purpose, unless the building was significant in it's form. just my .02, but what do i know?
Darth Paul Posted February 10, 2005 Posted February 10, 2005 i read about half-way down. if it has something to do with what we're talking about, i throw it in. keeps the discussion open. have no idea if each of the pyramid cultures were in some way connected, many people have thought so throughout time, even to the point of having stories about visitors from across the sea and whatnot. with the aztecs, there are even images carved in stone of egyptian-looking people in egyptian-looking dress, with the false goatee and everything, so, who knows? i agree the building of pyramids seems elementary, but during the time the Maya built theirs, they were already well skilled at building vertical stone walls, very large ones at that. the egyptians, on the other hand, maybe not, althought they could still do large structures that were not pyramids. mesopotamians could have just as easily not built them if they had no significance other than being a large stone building with no interior, or, a man-made hill, basically. they could easily have used any natural hill for whatever purpose, unless the building was significant in it's form. just my .02, but what do i know? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry if I came across as harsh or condescending. I didn't mean to poop your link. That's what I get for posting a quickie on my break. There may well be a connection between Egypt and Meso-America. I just don't know of any credible scientific evidence accepted by the anthropological community at large to prove it. But, hey, it is fun to speculate on!
Guest fledgling666 Posted February 10, 2005 Posted February 10, 2005 last couple of paragraphs of this page are interesting, as speculation goes..... https://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id581.html
hippyroo Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 last couple of paragraphs of this page are interesting, as speculation goes..... https://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id581.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> while tha article has some generalizations a few miscues.. the final few paragraphs are indeed, very interesting don't forget that the Olmecs were the mother culture, not the Myan.. and much origianted with them not mentioned are the starts thet these cultures knew about that "western culture" did not know about until the invention of powrful telescopes these cultures had many evil practices.. satan as their god is not hard to beleive
Elders (Admins) The Old Man Posted February 11, 2005 Elders (Admins) Posted February 11, 2005 Fair does, there's certainly some knowledgeable people around on this Board!
Guest CyberDude Posted February 17, 2005 Posted February 17, 2005 I remember hearing about the end of the mayan calendar in 2012 about a few years ago. Now that I think of it... could someone actually explain why does a calendar "end"? I mean... there are enough (if we can name an infinity "enough" ) numbers out there to go on forever... I remember a good comic drawing featuring 3 ancients in front of a calendar that said "december 1 B.C." One of them was saying "we're running out of numbers". Now that's a calendar problem!
Guest blondton13 Posted February 17, 2005 Posted February 17, 2005 I remember hearing about the end of the mayan calendar in 2012 about a few years ago. Now that I think of it... could someone actually explain why does a calendar "end"? I mean... there are enough (if we can name an infinity "enough" ) numbers out there to go on forever... I remember a good comic drawing featuring 3 ancients in front of a calendar that said "december 1 B.C." One of them was saying "we're running out of numbers". Now that's a calendar problem! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, they speculate that the Mayan calender does not actually "end", but that when it was originally written, they simply felt no need to continue past that particular time. So, you're right...it does not end-it simply stops at 2012 in the transcipts. That's why people connect an "ending" of the world to this particular date. The interesting thing to me about this date is the planetary (or cosmic) alignments which might make for an interesting show!
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