Future Millennium Event!(?)

[Guest fledgling666]

Well, they speculate that the Mayan calender does not actually "end", but that when it was originally written, they simply felt no need to continue past that particular time. So, you're right...it does not end-it simply stops at 2012 in the transcipts. That's why people connect an "ending" of the world to this particular date. The interesting thing to me about this date is the planetary (or cosmic) alignments which might make for an interesting show!

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the mayan calendar ending (and it IS ending, as far as i can tell from the info i can find) is directly proportional to the cosmic alignments you mention. from what i've read the past 2 weeks or so, the calender end-date was found before the calendar was put into place. the end date is more important than the time in which the calendar was designed. the reason is called precession. it's the movement, backward, of the constellations in the sky over a period of years. in 2012, the constellations will be in the exact same position they were 26000 years ago, in reference to the earth and it's horizon and all that junk. they found the end date, then they found the beginning by calculating how long it took, and by that, they found their dates for their time period. the calendar does end, but many think it just starts over. i think it ends. not the world, mind you, but the calendar. it was never meant to go on as long as it has, it's end is supposed to signify a new age of man, maybe in this new age we will have a different calendar, or no calendar........

[Guest blondton13]

... the calendar does end, but many think it just starts over. i think it ends. not the world, mind you, but the calendar. it was never meant to go on as long as it has, it's end is supposed to signify a new age of man, maybe in this new age we will have a different calendar, or no calendar........

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Whooooh...that's heavy. Can you expand on exactly what you mean by that?

(I'm confused... )

Being serious, not sarcastic, by the way!

[Walkabout]

sounds good to me.. get rid of alarm clocks too...

[hippyroo]

the mayan calendar ending (and it IS ending, as far as i can tell from the info i can find) is directly proportional to the cosmic alignments you mention. from what i've read the past 2 weeks or so, the calender end-date was found before the calendar was put into place. the end date is more important than the time in which the calendar was designed. the reason is called precession. it's the movement, backward, of the constellations in the sky over a period of years. in 2012, the constellations will be in the exact same position they were 26000 years ago, in reference to the earth and it's horizon and all that junk. they found the end date, then they found the beginning by calculating how long it took, and by that, they found their dates for their time period. the calendar does end, but many think it just starts over. i think it ends. not the world, mind you, but the calendar. it was never meant to go on as long as it has, it's end is supposed to signify a new age of man, maybe in this new age we will have a different calendar, or no calendar........

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Isnt' amazing that they undersood the stars so well? Their understanding of time blew away European and even Chinese concepts. And until the atomic clock came along they had the most accurate measurement. I foget to what decimal point they are accurate.

[Guest fledgling666]

Whooooh...that's heavy. Can you expand on exactly what you mean by that?

(I'm confused...  )

just basically regurgitating what i've read over the pasdt couple weeks since this thread started, mostly in the links i posted in this thread, as i read at least a little bit of each link before posting it for public consumption, just to be sure it's at least a little on-topic.

i still believe that there is an immense nothingness out there that we are still trying to account for and one day we will answer for it. we've tried to fill that nothingness since the dawn of time with prophecies, with time-tables, with time itself, and still, it's there, in the shadows, reminding the few of us who will listen that there is nothing else and when it's done here, it's done, period.

[Guest SouthernCelt]

Now I'm confused fledgling.

In your post you say in part "...there is nothing else and when it's done here, it's done, period."

Then I read your signature quote: "long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light" and have to wonder -- if there is nothing else, what do "hell" and "light" refer to in your quote?

I'm not nor trying to . Just curious, want to better understand what you believe, although I'm pretty sure you and I are pretty far apart on beliefs.

[Raven Wolf]

Interesting viewpoints here. I'll have to come back to see fledgelings response. I do agree with the "end" not being exactly what we think they mean by "end", fledgeling...

[Guest CyberDude]

My opinion too... as far as I can see, in december 2012 it's only the end of a mayan calendar-specific era. And it's also rather normal to coincide with a planetary alignment since the very movement of constellations and planets is the base on which it has been built. And the fact that a planetary alignment will occur at that time is not that unusual... I mean such alignments occur and have occurred for millennia... so...

Furthermore the end of an era in a calendar is such a relative thing... as in any other calendar. It's just a way of measuring time, it's man made. If it would happen tomorrow or the day after, would it make such a difference? There are plenty of other calendars out there, we celebrate the new year for example but others don't... so why should we look at the mayan calendar with much more interest than to others?

[Guest blondton13]

Well, um ,just to clarify the whole topic starter was just mentioning the planetary alignments and it's relation to the orobouros. Let me repeat the 1st post...

2012 - Solar Eclipse - May 20th, 2012: "To add to the growing list of novel occurrences, there will be two solar eclipses in 2012. During the first eclipse, which will occur on May 20, the Sun and moon will conjunct the Pleiades. The second eclipse, which will occur on November 13, marks a conjunction between the Sun, the moon, the constellation Serpens, or the serpent. Interestingly, the Pleiades was often associated with the rattle of a snake. The Mayan word for rattle is tzab, and is the same word used for the Pleiades cluster. These two eclipses which will occur in 2012 physically reflect the cosmic orobouros, which is the primordial serpent of eternity represented as a snake swallowing it’s own tail."

This thread has really wound itself around, so I'm bringing it back to it's head!!!!

Anyway, this was the original interest in the Mayan calender.....the idea mentioned about the cosmic orobouros. Maybe this will help answer your question, Cyberdude! Lot's of cool info just found itself added to the "head"!

[Guest CyberDude]

I read all that stuff too and I agree it will be so. And we shouldn't be looking at it as a coincidence because it was meant to be like that. God knows how did the mayans calculated it but it seems like they made it. I think that is the thing we should ponder about, not those silly "end of the world/end of the calendar" stuff.

What is really to be admired about the mayans, and many other ancient cultures for that matter, is the level of knowledge they reached. I am totally fascinated about these things and all the lost knowledge that went to ground with them. Look at those incredible temples, all that mathematical and astronomical, even medical knowledge! How on earth did they made it? Was it an external(extra terrestrial) influence? Did they worked their asses out to discover it?