Just Saw Lamentation For The 1st Time

[Guest brokenmn99]

I was on the edge of my seat. When the show was on T.V. I remember that was the only episode that I missed that season. I was crushed that I missed it. It was incredible.

I had only one episode on video until now. I am blown away by Lance's performance as an actor in this series. He makes Frank Black a real person.

[Libby]

Oh my goodness, to have to wait until now to see an episode that is regarded by most fans as being among the very best. Commiserations on your wait, but I'm so glad you've been able to experience such a powerful episode at last.

I agree that Lance plays Frank in such a believable way. And he can do it in such a very understated way that nevertheless conveys so much. Few actors have that talent.

[Guest brokenmn99]

I've been watching the new series 'Medium'. It's ok, similar, but it doesn't compare to Millennium. I hope they do a movie.

[Guest dylan1371]

I was on the edge of my seat. When the show was on T.V. I remember that was the only episode that I missed that season. I was crushed that I missed it. It was incredible.

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I believe it is the only episode from Season One that I have not yet watched. I have seasons 1 and 2 on DVD. I'm actually going to go watch LAMENTATION tonight for the first time, and I'll report back!

[4th Horseman]

I've been watching the new series 'Medium'. It's ok, similar, but it doesn't compare to Millennium. I hope they do a movie.

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hey, welcome to the board, you are amongst some of the friendliest, most knowledgable people you will ever meet on any board....the episode immediately after "Lamentations", "Power, Principalities, Thrones, and Dominions" is another "edge of the seater" and in my opinion is actually better in some ways than Lamentations. Give Gehenna a try as well, as we speak i would have to say its definately my favorite...although Force Majure is right up there, oh, and The Curse of Frank Black.....oh, heck, just watch all of them....LOL.....

Till the Last Change....Be Done...

fourhorseman....

[Gunslinger]

I was on the edge of my seat. When the show was on T.V. I remember that was the only episode that I missed that season. I was crushed that I missed it. It was incredible.

I had only one episode on video until now. I am blown away by Lance's performance as an actor in this series. He makes Frank Black a real person.

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agreed, its one of the best, nail biter, great plot, great acting.

[Gunslinger]

hey, welcome to the board, you are amongst some of the friendliest, most knowledgable people you will ever meet on any board....the episode immediately after "Lamentations", "Power, Principalities, Thrones, and Dominions"  is another "edge of the seater" and in my opinion is actually better in some ways than Lamentations. Give Gehenna a try as well, as we speak i would have to say its definately my favorite...although Force Majure is right up there, oh, and The Curse of Frank Black.....oh, heck, just watch all of them....LOL.....

Till the Last Change....Be Done...

fourhorseman....

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always take horsemen's advice to heart, hes one of the best posters on this board, and his posts are always worth reading, true fan of the show.

[ethsnafu]

always take horsemen's advice to heart, hes one of the best posters on this board, and his posts are always worth reading, true fan of the show.

Second that motion!

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"You're going to enjoy cutting me, I can just tell."

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Truly visceral! Surgical excision without anaesthesia! An episode that contains as much horror in its prose as its visuals: "They wrote some of the most beautiful love letters you'll ever read.". This whole episode resounded on so many levels for me and how much more disturbing was Lucy Butler when she was prosthetic-less and organically demonic and we were allowed to toy with the notion that she was so evil but still so human.

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As Chris Carter never seems to 'accidentally' name his characters I still cannot find a reason for the use of Ephraim, biblical son of Joseph, maybe I'm missing something. Wouldn't be a first.

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Till then ethsnafu

[4th Horseman]

Second that motion!

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"You're going to enjoy cutting me, I can just tell."

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Truly visceral! Surgical excision without anaesthesia! An episode that contains as much horror in its prose as its visuals: "They wrote some of the most beautiful love letters you'll ever read.". This whole episode resounded on so many levels for me and how much more disturbing was Lucy Butler when she was prosthetic-less and organically demonic and we were allowed to toy with the notion that she was so evil but still so human.

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As Chris Carter never seems to 'accidentally' name his characters I still cannot find a reason for the use of Ephraim, biblical son of Joseph, maybe I'm missing something. Wouldn't be a first.

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Till then ethsnafu

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Our wonderful Super Administrator Libby posted this on 4/29/05 - kudos Libby...

There was a professor Fabrikant in Canada who shot dead several people back in 1992. Apparently he was a bit of an oddity both on campus and on the internet. Several comments and links to web pages and were given; this was posted by a John Heumann, who included some very interesting points:

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The murderer is legendary as a newsgroup kook, from before he murdered those people. And through other people, his drivel has continued to be seen on newsgroups.

1. This article, though from 2001, includes a picture of Fabrikant being removed after his spree:

https://lcn.canoe.com/infos/faitsdivers/arc...728-095540.html

Creepy.

2. This article (in French), also from 2001, describes his contributions to Internet discussion:

https://www.canoe.qc.ca/TopoNet/juil27_fabrikant-cp.html.

3. And here's how the posts got posted:

https://www.montrealmirror.com/ARCHIVES/200...2501/news4.html

4. His case was the subject of a 1999 sociology monograph, reviewed (in French) here: https://www.vigile.net/999/cornellierfabrikant.html

5. A brief account of him as newsgroup kook, in appropriate company:

https://ic.media.mit.edu/people/richlach/Po...ive/Net_Legends

1. Fabrikant murdered in 1992, and his name would be in recent memory (more recent than Ted Kozinski and Ted Bundy in today's).

2. The name would associate a doctor (in Fabrikant's case, a Ph.D, not an M.D.) with multiple murder (in Fabrikant's case, spree killing, not serial killing),

3. and the picture in news item 1 above (Fabrikant, wrapped in bloody sheets, strapped to a gurney and being carried down steps) might contribute an apt image.

4. Use of the Internet is another common element: an essay entitled "The E-Mail Murders: Reflections on 'Dead Letters,'" in the book CyberSociety: Computer-Mediated Communication and Community (Sage 1995), is devoted to him. (I wouldn't propose a connection to this article. I just suggest that it is making the connection between Fabrikant and email that is in evidence with Millennium's Fabricant. Of course, it is at least interesting that the authors should use the term "Dead Letters," the title of another Millennium episode. . . . Okay, so it's an obvious joke . . .)

The final irrelevancy, from a portion of the transcript of Fabrikant's 1993 trial (https://www.geocities.com/benny_patrick/May11.txt), from the testimony of Dr. Claude Pothel regarding his autopsy of Dr. John Saber:

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The right kidney is missing and we see that there is abundant haemorrhagic infiltration in the area of the right kidney which means that the right kidney had been removed recently, during the surgical intervention and the exit hole is located at the twelfth right rib, at the back.

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I haven't looked at all those web pages. But if you want to look at the thread on the newsgroup (it was posted only last year) then you can get to it direct via:

Google group alt.tv.millennium/Fabricant

[4th Horseman]

Second that motion!

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"You're going to enjoy cutting me, I can just tell."

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Truly visceral! Surgical excision without anaesthesia! An episode that contains as much horror in its prose as its visuals: "They wrote some of the most beautiful love letters you'll ever read.". This whole episode resounded on so many levels for me and how much more disturbing was Lucy Butler when she was prosthetic-less and organically demonic and we were allowed to toy with the notion that she was so evil but still so human.

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As Chris Carter never seems to 'accidentally' name his characters I still cannot find a reason for the use of Ephraim, biblical son of Joseph, maybe I'm missing something. Wouldn't be a first.

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Till then ethsnafu

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"I'm not the person you think i am"....a chilling revelation from a person who would continue to haunt and trouble Frank thru 3 seasons...the "You've got mail" message that had Frank's home address, just one thing after another that really kicked the series into overdrive for the next couple of episodes, with PPTD, in my opinion, being just as good, and in some parts just as chilling as Lamentations. Its a real shame that the Lucy Butler issue was one of the many unanswered, unresolved issues of MillenniuM...woo-hoo, i'm a patron now...and with it the responsibility to post only mature, concise, factual material....